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TIM KASH(MC): Ever since his unexpected passing last Thursday afternoon, music fans, critics and artists have been reflecting on the musical legacy of Michael Jackson. So we decide to dig deep into ???, to get the opinion of the ultimate expert on the subject---the king of pop himself.
We uncover a rarely seen interview with MJ, filmed for 1999 special MTV's 100 greatest videos. Never so much being said of the singer's personal life in the wake of his death is refreshing to hear from the man himself, talking about what he did best: music.
Tim Kash: 自上周四下午MJ令人意想不到的离世后，许多歌迷，评论家，艺术家都在反复回味他留给世人的音乐财富。所以我们决定深入???, 了解最资深的专家，即流行乐之王MJ自己对于音乐的看法。
相关信息：我查了一下1999年MTV前一百最佳MV， MJ有两首在列：61. Michael Jackson – “Billie Jean” (Dir. Steve Barron, 1983) 和 27. Michael Jackson – “Thriller” (Dir. John Landis, 1983)
Michael Jackson's Innovation and Creativity/ MJ的创新力和想象力
MJ: The idea is to take a step forward and to innovate or else why am I doing it. I'm just, I don't wanna just be another canidat???. You know, I want to, you know, create, do something as totally different and unusual.
It's like, I hate to say, but it's like all somewhere?? to say, it's true, it's like you don't write the song, the song writes itself and it's just kind of falls into your lap??, it's like when you say 'gee. When is I do this?'. That sort of thing.
Alex Colletti: Is video the same or is video more...?
MJ: er...kind of. I think so. It's cursive??? of the same creative, you know, intid??? I think. You just let it create itself really, I know I do.
What Makes A Great Music Video/怎样才能做出优秀的MV
MJ: In my opinion, it has to be completely entertaining and have a sense of, a le??? sense of a co???, for as a...I like a beginning, a middle and an ending, so you could follow a story, and not just be illogic images. You know, and sometimes that's great too, it depends on what the director has a visionary, what he sees really.
Alex Colletti: How much do you put, how much faith or trust, how much of dea??? if director decide you 'll help?? him in the concepts?
MJ: Oh I am very much involved in the complete making and creating of the piece, I mean it has to be from, you know, my soul. Usually, you know, it's an interpretation of the music, so I'll think so, yes.
Alex：But you've in your ??radio nextdoor by the voice, you just pick up the wrong time to start to en?? the tune. Did you get that?
Behind The Video For 'Thriller'/Thriller mv幕后花絮
MJ: I love work with John Landis, cuz we laugh a lot, we are never serious on the set. So it's fun working with John, so I can throw water balloons, and stink bombs and everything at him. That's a ritual for me after we rap?? on each video; I throw a lot of stuff at everybody. So that's fun.
Alex: So how did you first meet John?
MJ: I met John right before doing ‘Thriller’. I called him on the phone, I think he was in London, and I told him when I wanted it to do, what the concept was, and we came together and we wrote it, the two of us.
Alex: When you talking concept with him, did you vision it is being a movie or a music video, cuz it seems, it's like more of a film.
MJ: No. My idea was to make a short film, you know, with conversation in the beginning and make that kind of illinier?? and bookin?? the conversation in the end. But John and I, he is such a fun guy, I really love working with him. We just sat together and chemistry started working, you know, he is fun.
Alex: Do you remember...were you a fan of horror movies in particular?
MJ: Believe it or not, I am afraid to watch scary movies. Honesty, I don't quite like to watch them very much. I never thought I'd be involved in making that sort of thing, but I am.
Alex: The two movies, 'Werewolf scenario' and '???night wooden dance', did you see any of those movies?
MJ: No. I did see 'An American Werewolf in London', which I though was really fun. No, I haven't seen the classic Werewolf one.
Alex: What's your last time saw 'Thriller'?
MJ: Gee...I don't know, I though about watching it again, but I don't cuz I don't wanna scare the children.(laughing XD)
相关信息：John Landis为Thriller mv的导演。http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Landis
《美国狼人在伦敦》 又名《鬼追人》1981，导演也是John Landis
Michael Jackson't Favorite Scene From 'Thrillier'/thriller中MJ最喜欢的镜头
MJ: My idea, I always try to be a pioneer, an innovator and whatever I do, and my dream was to always make, you know , short little film cuz I am big fan of 'Three Stooges', and I love watching Curly, who I think was wonderful, and he makes these like 15mins' shorts. And I say 'gee...I would love to do something like that one day.' and, you know, with the linies??? story, so this was my opportunity.
MJ: Rod Temperton, who wrote thriller, that was one of the first rap sec actually, he though of having a rap at the end of it, we called Vincent Price, and he said 'yes, right away'. So Ron was taking the taxi from his hotel, he is a germanfal???, from his hotel to the studio and he wrote it within twenty??, he did a great job.
MJ: Rod Temperton是thriller的词作者，刚才放的是第一段的rap，他当时想在歌曲最后加上一段rap，我们就打电话给Vincent Price（问他怎么样），他说好的没问题，然后Ron就乘出租车从酒店到录音室，???他用了20分钟就写完了，他完成的非常出色。
Alex: Did you ever meet Vincent Price?
MJ: Yeah, I've known Vincent Price since I was 11. And first time I met him, it was at the NBC studios, and he said 'come here' like that and kind of cruesome voice and I started to cry cuz I thought it was serious. Cuz I used to see him by turning the channels and those kind of...I think he was in the 'The Raven' and 'House of wax' or something, so he scared me.
Alex: is there a talk try to blabla???
MJ: No. There was never ant talk about that.
Alex: 你认识Vincent Price么？
Alex:???(听不清 - -)
Alex: Some of the dialogue, we were watching the video earlier, do you remember any of the dialogue from the scenes? Anything with the jumps out of the ... the film with the beginning?
MJ: From Thriller?
Alex: Is there a favorite line or a favorite part?
MJ: Oh...I like the scene when I am looking at the... when the girl... all these zombies are coming toward us, and she thinks she's safe with me, you know, being her boyfriend and she looks over to me and I become one. And we did at scenes pull in and pull out, move in , the Hitchcock move and I love that moment when I become one. It's fun.
Rod Temperton是thriller的词作者 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Temperton
The Choregraphy For 'Thriller'/thriller的编舞
MJ: It was a delicate thing to work on, because I remember my original approach was how do you make zombies and monsters dance without it be comical? So I said we have to do just the right kind of movement. So it doesn't become something that you laugh at, but it just has to be, you know, take it to another level. So I got in a room with Michael Peters, and he and I together, kind of matching, how the zombies should move by making faces in the mirror. I used to come to rehearsal sometimes when monster-makeup on and I love doing that. So he and I collaborated and we both choreographed the piece. And I thought start like you know kinda thing, and going to this kind of jazzy step, you know. kinda grow something like that, not too much ballet or whatever.(laughing)
Alex: right. That stiff movement to it..
MJ:编舞是个很费工夫的事，起初我尽量不想让那些鬼怪的舞蹈看起来很滑稽，所以我说要编出那些完全契合鬼怪感觉的舞蹈动作，这些动作不是引人发笑的，所以在动作的编排上要求更高。我当时和Michael Peters一起在房间里研究舞步，怎么一边跳舞一边对着镜子扮恐怖的表情。我很喜欢有几次带妆（鬼怪扮相）的排练。我和Michael Peters合作，最后一起编排了那支舞蹈。我当时想跳这类动作（M摆头~），然后过渡到有点爵士感的舞步，就像这类动作，而不是类似芭蕾或者其他的一些动作。
相关信息：Michael Peters与MJ一同编舞， http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Peters
Alex: You know, the length of the time,14 mins, really I was pretty much...were you worried ??...?
MJ: No. Because I knew if we did something with substance and content that people would watch and it had a great entertainment value and if it held you, I knew it would be okay. You know that was the idea, you know.
Alex: When you make the video, you are making it, when you finished it, did you realize just what have you accomplished? That this was.... the ground open??
MJ: When I was in the editing room, I knew I liked it, I enjoyed it. You know, it has to be satisfying for me, and I enjoy what I've seen that we finished it. So I was happy with it, never totally satisfied, but I was happy.
Alex: What was that, what would you have changed if you could?
MJ: I am not happy with the certain cuts, and angles, and timing, you know, those sort of things, you know.
Alex: you own spirit??
MJ: Yeah. It has to be just right. :D
Behind The Video For 'Beat It'/Beat it幕后花絮
MJ: Er...Beat it. It makes me think of the song and working with Quincy Jones and all those wonderful people. I love Quincy. He was a wonderful guy to work with. And I remember him telling me to write a song that I would enjoy, you know with an edge, so I went to my room, wrote 'beat it'. I don't know why but I did, about you know two gangs coming together. The song is so self-explanatory that it's so easy to make the short film. And I've seen I think it was McDonald’s commercial. And I said ‘God I like the rhythm and the cut of this commercial’. I said ‘I want this director for this piece’, so I reached out to him.
Alex: so that was Steve Barron, not steve, I am sry, it was Bob Giraldi.
MJ: Bob Giraldi! ???(估计是麦当劳的一句广告语）yeah Bob, Bob is cool.
Alex: It's awesome to realize that he came from that world.
MJ: Yes, he started in commercials.
Alex: ??? you sort of give him a big opportunity then.
MJ:嗯…beat it(避开) 让我想起了和Quincy Jones合作这首歌，还有其他一些出色的工作人员。我很喜欢Quincy，和他一起工作很开心。我记得他让我去写一首我自己会很喜欢的歌，要激烈一点的??，然后我就回自己的房间写了beat it，我不知道我为什么要写这歌，但我就写出来了。（这歌）就是关于两个帮派聚头的故事，歌词写得很直白，所以短片拍摄起来很容易。我当时好像看了一个麦当劳的广告，我非常喜欢那个广告的节奏和剪辑，所以我说我要找这个广告的导演来拍摄（beat it的）mv，所以我就找了那个导演。
Alex: 那个导演是Steve Barron，不对，是Bob Giraldi
MJ: Bob Giraldi！对的，是Bob，Bob非常棒！
相关信息：Bob Giraldi是Beat it的导演，还替MJ拍了百事可乐的广告 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Giraldi
Behind The Video For 'Billie Jean'/billie jean幕后花絮
Alex: ??? There was a time that MTV wasn't play, wouldn't play video, was it 'Billie Jean' or 'Beat It' broke the racial (barrier)?
MJ: I think it was 'Billie Jean', cuz that came before "Beat it". It was between making a showoff?? and a mtv, I don't know the whole story.
Alex:??? 那个时候MTV好像不播放(黑人的)mv，是‘billie jean’还是‘beat it’打破了这种行规？
MJ:应该是‘billie jean’, 因为这个在‘beat it’之前的，‘billie jean’似乎是介于表演和mv之间的一种形式，我不太清楚是怎么回事。
Alex: But it still finally…???...to be the one, to kind of be the first…
MJ: It makes me feel happy. It really does. I was glad.
Alex: Cool~ 'Billie Jean' is kind of different because it really doesn't have anything to do with the lyrics, the video is kind of a whole different thing. What ??? was that?
MJ: It's kind of surreal and it's different. I didn't come up with that concept. It was...er, I think a British fellow. Yea,Steve Barron. He just had all these diferwen???. And I thought he had wonderful ideas but I let him go with it. The only part I wrote in the piece was I said that I just wanted a section, I said give me a section where I can dance a little cuz he said no dancing at the whole piece. He said no dancing. I said just give me one little moment. So that whole section, when you see this long street and this billboard of these two girls. One of them is Billie Jean and I am dancing. That's only part I can treat?? it.
Alex: ??? 但不管怎样，这是第一个（在MTV播出的作品）
Alex: 'Billie Jean’有些不同，因为影片和歌词没什么关系，完全是另外一回事，怎么会这样？
MJ:这故事有点离奇，（同其他）不太一样，这不是我定的主题，好像是个英国人，啊对，是Steve Barron. 他有???，我觉得他的想法很好，但我沒坚持让他用这些想法。我唯一参与的部分就是提出我想要一段能够跳舞的片段。因为他当时说整个片子里不能有舞蹈，我说我只想跳上一小段，所以片子里有一个场景，你看到一条很长的路，边上是广告牌，上面有两个女孩，其中一个就是billie jean, 那段我就在跳舞，这是唯一一段我参与的部分。
相关信息：Steve Barron是Billie Jean的导演 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Barron
Behind The Video For 'Black Or White'/black or white幕后花絮
MJ: I wanted to dance number wear???. I told my sister Janet, I said 'you remember?? my black panther. Why don't you do something will you transform into a black panther and you transform into yourself again. She said I liked it, but she didn't go with it. Cuz We all, the two of us, we always think alike. So I told her I was going to do it, so I did it. And in the dance, I said I want to do a dance numer wear???, I can set out my frustration about, you know, and justice, and prejudice, and racism and bigotry. And within the dance I just became upset and I let go, you know, and that's what happen. And I think at that time, people were concern about the violent contempt of the peace, but it's like easy to look at, it's simple.
MJ:我一直想跳??? 我跟我妹妹janet说，“你还记得那头黑豹么，你想不想尝试拍个片子里面你变成了黑豹，之后又变回来？”她说她很喜欢这个想法，但是她没有尝试。我们两个一直想法都很相似。所以我告诉她我决定尝试，并且我做出来了。在舞蹈里，我说我想???，就能表达我的失落和不满，关于公平正义，人们的盲从和偏见，还有宗族歧视。在舞蹈里，我感到很沮丧，我就随他去了(?let go这里翻不出额) ，就是这样。当时人们更关心对于和平的强烈轻视，但其实就像看到的那样，很简单。